I know this is a few days late, but I have been away travelling and did not have the time to read everything like I normally do all the day of issue. Luke this is one of the most sensible post. I’ve seen for a long time and I 100% agree with you. I have been saying regularly, on this forum and others that patience is the word. This is a long game, a big and different plan, or project as they call it. I am a long-term supporter. I was there at the game when we nearly went down to the old third division . I went through the period of us having no money pre-Bates taking over. Some of the negative comments that we read in various formats and forums are just naive and don’t see and understand some of the comments that you make. It was unrealistic from day one for us to expect to have a Champions League place this season, naivety at best, we should not even be thinking that it might happen next year. Set lower expectations and realistic goals and be patient. That has to be the mantra that we all live by. Thank you for your very considerate view as sorry for the late message back
Every time a manager is underperforming the question is who will replace him. Every time a replacement is found. It will be no different this time. It's absolutely the wrong question to ask. The right way to do it is to set some metrics which constitute sufficient grounds for firing either in terms of results or performances, pick your own metrics. If you think you might fire him then it's probably better to do it as early as possible to give the new guy whoever it might be time.
Personally I would fire Poch. I have great hopes for this squad and I think they are being let down by the manager. Certainly injuries, youth are all contributions but he hasn't helped himself.
It’s nice to see some positivity after all the toxic ranting on X and other forms of social media. I do believe the owners want a successful club but they have been naive and tried to create a team of inexperienced talent. Stats are important when recruiting but they do not take into account experience or leadership skills. Mistakes have been made but it’s a learning curve and I hope this will lead them to better decision making going forwards. I only hope we will be in a position to buy more experienced players in the key positions next year without encountering FFP issues or needing to sell home grown players like Conor to finance that.
See, I agree with all of this. And living in America I can tell you that the Dodgers are incredibly well run and if we end up looking like them we’ll be an even greater winning machine than Roman ever built.
My emotions do get the best of me and I’ve been a bit negative on here of late. Pains me to see my Chelsea destroyed. I am hoping for brighter days!
Hmmmmm. To put it plainly, they were a proud franchise which had fallen under poor management and hadn’t won a title in 20+ years, despite having more money than most MLB teams. They didn’t have many losing seasons, but just were not up to the standards of Los Angeles’ premier baseball team. The new ownership came in, did a bunch of renovations about the stadium, facilities, and scouting department (sound familiar?), but the biggest thing they did is restore the quality of the “farm system”. This is equivalent to an academy. The Dodgers now have probably the best farm system in the major leagues to go along with having the most money, or at least being right up there with the richest. They can let stars walk, and they have, knowing they have the next star coming through. I think this is what the new owners want and why they are investing heavily to in young talent. They want to create this base of youth stars. It’s important to note they are not afraid to pay their stars though and they do when it’s worth it.
The dodgers never went through such dramatic losing like Chelsea are though. Just improved from pretty good / okay to ridiculously good. I think there’s been some naivety here for sure. There have been more mistakes made at Chelsea without a doubt. But I do think the goal is to have a dominant perennial contender in a big market (LA, London) which can call upon both a big payroll as well as lots of youth talent to keep the winning going as stars age / demand too much money. That’s the vision I see.
Thanks for this it’s really great feedback to hear about the Dodgers. I’ve heard the same from good friends of mine that live in LA and have nothing but positive to say about the ownership there. I agree we have to be patient and look at the Long game and take the pain in the interim.
I know this is a few days late, but I have been away travelling and did not have the time to read everything like I normally do all the day of issue. Luke this is one of the most sensible post. I’ve seen for a long time and I 100% agree with you. I have been saying regularly, on this forum and others that patience is the word. This is a long game, a big and different plan, or project as they call it. I am a long-term supporter. I was there at the game when we nearly went down to the old third division . I went through the period of us having no money pre-Bates taking over. Some of the negative comments that we read in various formats and forums are just naive and don’t see and understand some of the comments that you make. It was unrealistic from day one for us to expect to have a Champions League place this season, naivety at best, we should not even be thinking that it might happen next year. Set lower expectations and realistic goals and be patient. That has to be the mantra that we all live by. Thank you for your very considerate view as sorry for the late message back
Every time a manager is underperforming the question is who will replace him. Every time a replacement is found. It will be no different this time. It's absolutely the wrong question to ask. The right way to do it is to set some metrics which constitute sufficient grounds for firing either in terms of results or performances, pick your own metrics. If you think you might fire him then it's probably better to do it as early as possible to give the new guy whoever it might be time.
Personally I would fire Poch. I have great hopes for this squad and I think they are being let down by the manager. Certainly injuries, youth are all contributions but he hasn't helped himself.
It’s nice to see some positivity after all the toxic ranting on X and other forms of social media. I do believe the owners want a successful club but they have been naive and tried to create a team of inexperienced talent. Stats are important when recruiting but they do not take into account experience or leadership skills. Mistakes have been made but it’s a learning curve and I hope this will lead them to better decision making going forwards. I only hope we will be in a position to buy more experienced players in the key positions next year without encountering FFP issues or needing to sell home grown players like Conor to finance that.
See, I agree with all of this. And living in America I can tell you that the Dodgers are incredibly well run and if we end up looking like them we’ll be an even greater winning machine than Roman ever built.
My emotions do get the best of me and I’ve been a bit negative on here of late. Pains me to see my Chelsea destroyed. I am hoping for brighter days!
Thanks Alejandro, I am not one to be bothered whether people agree or disagree with me but it always gives a sense of sanity when others agree!
Would be great to hear more from you on the Dodgers and how we compare the way they were run at the start through until now!
Hmmmmm. To put it plainly, they were a proud franchise which had fallen under poor management and hadn’t won a title in 20+ years, despite having more money than most MLB teams. They didn’t have many losing seasons, but just were not up to the standards of Los Angeles’ premier baseball team. The new ownership came in, did a bunch of renovations about the stadium, facilities, and scouting department (sound familiar?), but the biggest thing they did is restore the quality of the “farm system”. This is equivalent to an academy. The Dodgers now have probably the best farm system in the major leagues to go along with having the most money, or at least being right up there with the richest. They can let stars walk, and they have, knowing they have the next star coming through. I think this is what the new owners want and why they are investing heavily to in young talent. They want to create this base of youth stars. It’s important to note they are not afraid to pay their stars though and they do when it’s worth it.
The dodgers never went through such dramatic losing like Chelsea are though. Just improved from pretty good / okay to ridiculously good. I think there’s been some naivety here for sure. There have been more mistakes made at Chelsea without a doubt. But I do think the goal is to have a dominant perennial contender in a big market (LA, London) which can call upon both a big payroll as well as lots of youth talent to keep the winning going as stars age / demand too much money. That’s the vision I see.
Thanks for this it’s really great feedback to hear about the Dodgers. I’ve heard the same from good friends of mine that live in LA and have nothing but positive to say about the ownership there. I agree we have to be patient and look at the Long game and take the pain in the interim.